Our friend Ben Gibbard was on the show 1 year ago. We’d like to celebrate this anniversary by sharing this wonderful interview. Ben tells us how, as an ultra runner, he copes with injury, both physically & mentally. We hear about Ben’s connection between addiction, fitness & sobriety, & Ben shares his view on the future of live shows & touring. We also hear Proxima B from Ben’s 2020 solo release. Be sure to check out Ben's newest endeavor, both curating and performing on Ocean Child, Songs of Yoko Ono (out now).

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